Miranda (Fimbres)

Our Miranda branch is one that we know the least about.  The furthest we can trace back is to Manuel Miranda beginning at least in the early 1880s in the Territory of Arizona, which would make him one of the earliest settlers of Arizona.

Family oral history says he was a Yaqui Indian, although we now know as a result of paternal DNA testing that he was not full-blooded Yaqui.  The testing showed that our male line eventually traces back to Western Europe, and likely to the low countries of the Netherlands or Belgium. We do know that the traditional home of the Yaqui people is near the Rio Yaqui in northern Sonora state in Mexico, and thousands crossed into Arizona from Mexico starting in the mid-1800s to flee the military regime of Mexican dictator Porfirio Diaz.

The DNA testing also linked us within one marker to three separate individuals whose last names are Fimbres.  The testing suggests that approximately three generations back from Manuel, our direct male line meets with the three Fimbres individuals.  As a result, our theory is that Manuel’s father was a Fimbres who likely only fathered the child but was otherwise completely absent.  As a result, Manuel carried his mother’s maiden name of Miranda,  and for this reason Manuel and his descendants carried the Miranda surname forward instead of Fimbres.

Manuel’s descendants lived in Arizona for most of the 20th Century.  His only son Francisco lived in the mining towns of Clifton and Ray-Sonora.  Francisco’s son Romulo lived nearly his whole life in Clifton before spending the final five years in Los Angeles, California.  Francisco eventually assumed his mother’s maiden name (Jordan) and had another family that carried the Jordan name instead of Miranda.  Their descendants continue in Arizona, with some branches in California.  In all, at least four generations of Mirandas lived in Arizona.

What is certain is that the Miranda family, with its mix of Native American, Spanish, Belgian, and even a touch of German-Polish blood, was among the earliest latin settlers in the present-day United States.  The Mirandas experienced the US Civil War, the US wars against the Native Americans, World War I, the Great Depression, World War II, segregation, and several waves of “new” latin american immigration to the United States.  Ultimately, they left Arizona for good in the 1980s, with some branches settling in Los Angeles, California and others in the Mid-Atlantic United States.

Related branches associated with our Miranda (Fimbres) line we are researching include Jordan, Hermosillo, Lucero, and Spring/Sprinz (a little known-about German-Polish branch).

The beginning of our Miranda line:

16 responses to “Miranda (Fimbres)

  1. Al Miranda

    Yes you are correct in the fact that many indians did take on christians names, during the 1800s, many of the Miranda Clan came to the Americas in the early 1700s, as shlips mates or even as naval officers. I am of the Miranda clan from El Cargadero, Zacatecas, our clan where predominately fair or white complected some with blond hair an blue eyes, The Miranda Family in my tree dates back to early 1800s, My family came during the war , Diaz , Pancho Villa, Sapata , escaping with there daughters, to the safety of the American borders. The Miranda Family today is extremely huge and lives all over the United States, there roots coming from El Cargadero, Zacatecas, Spain, ,, Miranda De Elbro, and San Sebastion,, just can not make the first connection
    Al Miranda

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    • Miranda Family

      Al, thanks for visiting and sharing the information on the roots of the Mirandas in Mexico. I knew about the city of Miranda de Elbro in Pais Vasco and assumed it was possibly a town where the name began. I also met a Miranda in Salamanca, Spain who told me the Mirandas were mostly from Northern Spain. I hope one day to learn more about our presumed “first Miranda” – it’s would be interesting to know why he chose the last name Miranda.

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      • 3rd Culture Children

        Very proud of all the work you’ve put here. It’ll be a keepsake for our children, and the ones after them…. Much love, R.

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  2. c

    I am the direct descendat of Refugio Miranda of the Arizona Territory. I am pleased to see that you have discovered much information.

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  3. I am not related to the Miranda family but I own a bed from 1664 hand carved with the Miranda Coat-of-Arms carved on the back. I am 73 yrs. old and have owned this for 40 years. I feel it should go back into the Miranda family. If you know someone who is interested please contact me at the E-mail address below. I live in Virginia.

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  4. Margaret

    There is a Jesus Miranda, who, along with my great-great grandfather Gabriel Fimbres Vasquez, was one of the first 7 or 8 Mexicans granted the right to homestead in the Arizona Territory (circa 1880). In order to do so, my grandfather had to sign a Declaration of Intent, which stated his intent to become a citizen of the United States and give up all allegiance to Mexico. He was born in the Arizona Territory but when it was still Mexico. We like to say he didn’t cross the border, the border crossed him!

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    • lmiranda5

      Hi Margaret,

      Firstly, thanks for stopping by the site!

      As you saw on the site, we only recently found out that we are actually Fimbres through DNA testing – our closest matches all had the last name Fimbres, so we can only deduce that at some point our direct line ancestor kept his mother’s last name (Miranda). It’s still a family we don’t know much about but understand that they were in Arizona at least about 1880 and came from Sonora, Mexico.

      I’d be very interested in hearing what else you have learned in your research on these two lines in Arizona/Mexico.

      Best,
      Leonel

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  5. Margaret

    Hi Leonel,
    Thank you for getting back to me. I have documented my Fimbres line to my 3rd great-grandfather, Guadalupe Fimbres, who was born in 1808 in Moctezuma, Sonora, Mexico and died in Suaqui Grande, Sonora, Mexico. He was married to Josefa Vasquez and they had two sons, Gabriel (1844) and Bernardo (1850) Gabriel is my great-great grandfather. He moved toTombstone, Arizona in 1861 and died in Miami, Arizona in 1926. He married Macaria Pereida in 1865. Gabriel was light, with blue eyes and light brown hair. Macaria was dark, the elders in our family say she was either Yaqui or Apache. Another elder said she might be Papago. But we really don’t know. Bernardo Fimbres and most of his descendants stayed in Mexico. Most of Gabriel’s descendants are in Arizona and California.

    I am also working on some undocumented leads that Guadalupe’s father, Vicente Fimbres, was born about 1780 in Oposura, Sonora, Mexico and that his father, Jose Fimbres, was born about 1762.

    I am interested in finding out if we might be related. Do any of these names, dates or places show up in your work?

    Thanks!
    Margaret

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    • lmiranda5

      Margaret, those names are not in my files but I will check with some of my Fimbres primos to see if they have them. Moctezuma and Suaqui Grande in Sonora do seem to pop up continuously in any research I do on the Fimbres family. Our issue has been been connecting dots beyond about five generations back. Have you or any male family members done DNA testing? That’s how we even learned we were actually Fimbres! Let’s definitely stay in touch. Leonel

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  6. Anonymous

    Hi pappy I got on your website and read everything its great! from cesar

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